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Paul Honeycutt

 

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Post  Posted 19 May 2014 5:52 pm    
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Do you ever take your right foot off the volume pedal to work the changer pedals, or do you only use knee levers with the right leg?

I don't play PSG and I've never noticed. Being an above knee amputee, I have a prosthisis on my left leg and don't think I could get around the pedals very well. I can work a hi hat on a drum kit but can't drive a car with a clutch anymore.
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Greg Johnson


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Greencastle, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 19 May 2014 6:00 pm    
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No question is dumb. I saw a video once of Buddy Emmons using both feet on pedals. But that is not the norm. Seems to me someone actually built a right handed guitar with the pedals on the right side for someone.
Maybe someone else can chime in here and recall which company did it.
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Post  Posted 19 May 2014 6:44 pm    
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My last pedal and my right knee right combine to give me a G dobro tuning. It's best if I take my foot off the volume pedal and hit the last pedal while hitting the knee lever. It forces me to play it like a real dobro, using only my hand for dynamics.

EDIT: Forgot to say that this is on my C6th neck.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 19 May 2014 7:49 pm    
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Paul, to answer your direct question:
People double-foot on the C6 neck all the time.

To answer your indirect question, and the more important one:
Telonics makes a volume ballcap, using the same sensors on their volume pedals, but built into a cap.
This frees the right foot for working the pedals, and since most PSGs are custom built, to have the pedals moved over to the right end of the guitar shouldn't cost much (if any) more.
You didn't say how much thigh you have: if you have enough to use knee levers, that would be a bonus.
I've seen a "frame" of wrist levers meant for use by the right (picking) hand of four levers. If you had no use of the left leg for levers, you could STILL have a full set of pedals, three (or five or six, with clusters-might be hard if you can't shift in the seat) knees and four "hand knees".
Requires a custom guitar and some clever bits, but it COULD be done.
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Joe Naylor


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Post  Posted 19 May 2014 7:57 pm     Not
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NOT the dumbest question ever - just watch the topics here

Good question and you have good answers - You will see all kinds of combinations of peoples knees, feet and even hand placement

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Scott Duckworth


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Post  Posted 20 May 2014 3:15 am    
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Here is the thread on the custom guitar...

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=258727

GFI also does some custom stuff...

http://www.gfimusicalproducts.com/
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 20 May 2014 5:34 am    
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Paul, if you can work a hi-hat, you should be able to play pedal steel guitar. You don't need lots of levers and pedals, either (despite what many here will tell you). All you need is the desire...and someone to help you get started. Smile
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 20 May 2014 6:15 am    
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What Donny says, I think (I've never really messed with drums, and I cannot fathom the degree of independent multitasking necessary to play drums)
85% of steel playing can happen on 3&3.
My posited number of levers was more to show that with just a bit of Gyro Gearloose/Maguyver, you can load the hell out of a guitar and stay within the limitations.
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Craig Baker


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Post  Posted 20 May 2014 7:00 am    
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Great thread Paul.
First time I saw Jimmy Day with Ray Price in 1964, he danced all over that old Sho~Bud with both feet. Never saw anything like it!

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Frank Freniere


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Post  Posted 20 May 2014 8:58 am    
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Lane Gray wrote:
85% of steel playing can happen on 3&3.

+1
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 20 May 2014 9:00 am    
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Lane Gray wrote:
What Donny says, I think (I've never really messed with drums, and I cannot fathom the degree of independent multitasking necessary to play drums)
85% of steel playing can happen on 3&3.
My posited number of levers was more to show that with just a bit of Gyro Gearloose/Maguyver, you can load the hell out of a guitar and stay within the limitations.


As a former drummer, I can testify to the fact that is also very difficult to do many things all at once.
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Scott Duckworth


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Post  Posted 20 May 2014 9:46 am    
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Kinda like flying a helicopter, right Richard? (I used to play drums too... when I was young.. a loooooong time ago...)
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Larry Bressington


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Post  Posted 20 May 2014 10:48 am    
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[quote="Lane Gray"]
85% of steel playing can happen on 3&3.
+2 on what lane said!

The art is getting the volume set before leaving it to do other task's with your foot.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 21 May 2014 3:55 am    
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A 3+2 setup was "standard" on E9th for a good while, but you can also play pedal steel with no levers. Cool
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Bob Hickish


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Post  Posted 21 May 2014 6:04 am    
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Paul
you could put the foot pedal action on levers - it might be limited to basic changes ,but , a grate deal of music can be played in that set-up .
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Stephen Gambrell

 

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Post  Posted 21 May 2014 10:48 pm    
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Didn't Ralph Mooney reach over with his right foot a good bit? That's the only way I can get "Rainy Day Woman" to sound right.

And yours is NOT a dumb question. A dumb question would be me, several years ago, looking at a steel guitar and asking, "How much d'you want for this thing..."

Hat's off, to Gene Fields who's done some amazing things to accomodate handicapped players, and Chuck Back--another guy who'll build a guitar around your limitations. I'm sure others will, too, but I know, definitely, about Gene and Chuck.
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Bill Moran

 

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Post  Posted 22 May 2014 5:04 pm    
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Paul, check it out .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Mx5lhreMY
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 22 May 2014 5:15 pm    
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Scott Duckworth wrote:
Kinda like flying a helicopter, right Richard? (I used to play drums too... when I was young.. a loooooong time ago...)


So, what you are saying is, I am qualified to fly a helicopter. Off to the airport I go...
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