The Steel Guitar Forum Store 

Post new topic Play without this knee lever!
Reply to topic
Author Topic:  Play without this knee lever!
Frank Parish

 

From:
Nashville,Tn. USA
Post  Posted 8 Sep 2002 12:28 am    
Reply with quote

Pretty close to the end of the night I broke the knee lever that lowers the E strings on the E9 neck. I figured if Lloyd Green has done it all these years it would be a good time to get some practice. Try playing without this knee for a few tunes.

[This message was edited by Frank Parish on 08 September 2002 at 07:08 AM.]

View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

Jim Palenscar

 

From:
Oceanside, Calif, USA
Post  Posted 8 Sep 2002 4:15 am    
Reply with quote

and pot metal!
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website

Erv Niehaus


From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 8 Sep 2002 6:20 am    
Reply with quote

I'm not Lloyd Green and I need all the help I can get! Give me that E lever!
Uff-Da!
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

Jeff Lampert

 

From:
queens, new york city
Post  Posted 8 Sep 2002 6:35 am    
Reply with quote

As an owner of a Sho-Bud Professional, I can say that the most important thing you need is a car body shop. Those spot welds are REAL HELPFUL!
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

Joerg Hennig


From:
Bavaria, Germany
Post  Posted 8 Sep 2002 10:10 am    
Reply with quote

But keep in mind that even Lloyd Green does lower his 8th string. I personally find this change much more important than the 4th string lower.

Regards, Joe H.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

Larry Bell


From:
Englewood, Florida
Post  Posted 8 Sep 2002 11:12 am    
Reply with quote

I played the entire "Always Patsy Cline" show one night last year without it. One of the little raise hooks on my push-pull was stuck between the 4th and 5th string changer fingers and every time I'd try to lower the raise finger would kick in. Had to get it home in the light to see well enough to figure out what it was.

It wasn't that hard to play around it, but I was certainly more comfortable the next night, when it was working. Nobody else, including the music director, even noticed it.

------------------
Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
2000 Fessenden S-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro

[This message was edited by Larry Bell on 08 September 2002 at 12:13 PM.]

View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website

Bobby Lee


From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
Post  Posted 8 Sep 2002 11:39 am    
Reply with quote

For a while I had a guitar that couldn't raise and lower a string. I put the raise on the 4th string and the lower on the 8th (two separate levers). It was very playable.

It takes a while to get used to going to the second string instead of lowering the fourth string. If you're having trouble learning how to use the second string, you might consider removing the fourth string lower for a while. That will force you to go to the second string more often.

------------------
Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs
Sierra Session 12 (E9), Williams 400X (Emaj9, D6), Sierra Olympic 12 (F Diatonic) Sierra Laptop 8 (D13), Fender Stringmaster (E13, A6)
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website

Joe Miraglia


From:
Jamestown N.Y.
Post  Posted 8 Sep 2002 1:08 pm    
Reply with quote

Larry did you spank the little beast Joe
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

Bob Carlson

 

From:
Surprise AZ.
Post  Posted 8 Sep 2002 4:01 pm    
Reply with quote

I believe I read in an interview that when Lloyd put on the lever to lower his E,s the only place left was LKL.

Any truth in that Lloyd?.

Bob.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website

Bobby Lee


From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
Post  Posted 8 Sep 2002 5:25 pm    
Reply with quote

As I heard it, when Lloyd put on the lever to raise his E's the only place left was LKR. Here's his tuning:
# note  LKL  Ped1  Ped2  Ped3  LKR     RKL   RKR  

1 F# __+G________________________________________
2 D# ________________________________-D/C#_______
3 G# _____________+A_____________________________
4 E ___________________+F#____+F________________
5 B _______+C#_________+C#______________________
6 G# _____________+A_____________________________
7 F# ____________________________________________
8 E __________________________+F___________-D#__
9 D ____________________________________________
10 B _______+C#__________________________________



------------------
Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs
Sierra Session 12 (E9), Williams 400X (Emaj9, D6), Sierra Olympic 12 (F Diatonic) Sierra Laptop 8 (D13), Fender Stringmaster (E13, A6)
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website

Jeff Lampert

 

From:
queens, new york city
Post  Posted 8 Sep 2002 5:34 pm    
Reply with quote

.

[This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 08 September 2002 at 06:35 PM.]

View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

Larry Bell


From:
Englewood, Florida
Post  Posted 8 Sep 2002 6:42 pm    
Reply with quote

Joe,
Actually, The Beast spanked me that particular night.

------------------
Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
2000 Fessenden S-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website

Al Marcus


From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 8 Sep 2002 9:00 pm    
Reply with quote

I agree with Bobby on the 2nd string, if you dont have the knee lever that flats the 4th string, you can do it with the 2nd string.

I had a Fender 400 with 1 knee lever, and had it pull the 4th string 1/2 tone to F and the 8th string lowered to D#.

I played that setup 3 nights a week for 4 months while I was waiting for my MSA D12.

I got so I used that 2nd string all the time. by picking the 2nd and 3rd string and the 5th string , it worked real good for chords too.

But I was glad to get that D12...al
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website


All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Jump to:  

Our Online Catalog
Strings, CDs, instruction,
steel guitars & accessories

www.SteelGuitarShopper.com

Please review our Forum Rules and Policies

Steel Guitar Forum LLC
PO Box 237
Mount Horeb, WI 53572 USA


Click Here to Send a Donation

Email admin@steelguitarforum.com for technical support.


BIAB Styles
Ray Price Shuffles for
Band-in-a-Box

by Jim Baron
HTTP