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Well I guess I will call her a '39 now. Good info!

Again, it isn't. The pickup was built 1940-2, and Mark has narrowed it down further to 1941.

Structurally, it's a non-issue. It's pretty common in old ebony boards, but as long as the board isn't loose from the neck and the frets aren't faling out, it's really just aesthetic. You can fill it ...

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That all depends on what sound you're looking for (except for the hum, which cannot be caused by a "mismatched" pickup and amp).

It's currently set up in A6, with A on the bottom and E on top.

I custom ordered this from Beard and received it in 2017. As much as I love it, my musical priorities have shifted and it's a shame to see it gathering dust. Time to find it a new home!

It's a mode ...

According to [url=https://wiedler.ch/nyepireg/database.html#SNhead]the Epiphone serial database, it's a Zephyr 8-string from 1942.

No, the nut riser doesn't affect tension; people just tend to use heavier strings for steel than Spanish playing.

You really don't want to go with heavy strings on a biscuit-bridge guitar; there is no spider or T-bar casting protecting it, so the cone may crumple or crease. I would not attempt to play an pre-War ...

In one interview, Leon had complained about the necks being on the same level, so maybe that's why they built it that way:

That wouldn't have been a Rickenbacker, then; these had the necks at diff ...

The D-16 is not a particularly rare model (and this is not a DC-16); without the McAuliffe association this would be worth about 1/3 of the asking price.

It's not an Epiphone, though that does appear to be an inspiration behind it. It incorporates elements of early Vega steels too, though it's not one of theirs either.

There was an Australian builde ...

I prefer the sound of a shorter-scale steel, but that's just subjective. I find slanting easier on longer-scale steels because your intonation doesn't have to be as precise.

Model 386K Troubadour. According to the 1941 catalog it has a 26" scale.

The Magnatone amps are still available. I saw them listed at Sweetwater Music and they are not at all cheap.

The new Magnatone amps have nothing to do with the old ones. Different company, differe ...

Cordovoxes were single-rotor speakers. That's a different sound from the Leslies commonly used with Hammond organs. You need a pedal that emulates a model 16 or 18 or Fender Vibratone specifically.

I can't find an exact match for it. It's certainly a late National-Dobro or early Valco creation; the first-generation string-through pickup dates it to 1940-2. It seems to combine features from sever ...

Someone needs to medley this with Poco's "Pickin' Up the Pieces".

This is the first post-War version, built by Kay. Unfortunately their serials are not precisely datable, but they were catalogued by 1948 and replaced by the Valco-built version by 1953.

Yeah, pics aren't working.

The image uploading system on this forum is a little odd. If you can't get it to work, you can upload them to an image-hosting site like [url=https://imgur.com/upload]Img ...

A slipping tuner is generally a sign that the gears are worn. There's no way to put that material back once it wears away. You can try swapping parts from another tuner but that's not easy on Klusons. ...

The trapezoids were designed to give better bass response than the boxcars... and it worked! Similar highs, but beefier lows on the traps.

The Firebird pickup is very different from a conventional mini-humubcker despite having the same footprint. While the mini-humbucker is just a shrinken humbucker with one slug coil and one screw coil, ...

Minnie never played the big humbucking pickup. She played a New Yorker with the blade pickup in the bridge, and later an Aristocrat with a smaller pickup at the neck and a "Bridge-Tone" unit ...

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Topic: 2017 Beard E Odyssey 7-string
Noah Miller Replies: 4 Views: 1444	Forum Section: For Sale: Steel Guitars Posted: 16 Apr 2024 5:28 am Subject: 2017 Beard E Odyssey 7-string
Noah Miller Replies: 4 Views: 1444	Bump!
Topic: Supro Done! - Help ID This Lap Steel - Supro?
Noah Miller Replies: 23 Views: 2447	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 28 Mar 2024 4:32 pm Subject: Supro Done! - Help ID This Lap Steel - Supro?
Noah Miller Replies: 23 Views: 2447	Well I guess I will call her a '39 now. Good info! Again, it isn't. The pickup was built 1940-2, and Mark has narrowed it down further to 1941.
Topic: Cracks in fretboard
Noah Miller Replies: 6 Views: 512	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 21 Mar 2024 2:45 pm Subject: Cracks in fretboard
Noah Miller Replies: 6 Views: 512	Structurally, it's a non-issue. It's pretty common in old ebony boards, but as long as the board isn't loose from the neck and the frets aren't faling out, it's really just aesthetic. You can fill it ...
Topic: 1939 National Sonora electric guitar
Noah Miller Replies: 5 Views: 2495	Forum Section: For Sale: Other Instruments Posted: 17 Mar 2024 4:40 am Subject: 1939 National Sonora electric guitar
Noah Miller Replies: 5 Views: 2495	Bump!
Topic: pick ups and amps
Noah Miller Replies: 11 Views: 1367	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 5 Mar 2024 6:30 am Subject: pick ups and amps
Noah Miller Replies: 11 Views: 1367	That all depends on what sound you're looking for (except for the hum, which cannot be caused by a "mismatched" pickup and amp).
Topic: 2017 Beard E Odyssey 7-string
Noah Miller Replies: 4 Views: 1444	Forum Section: For Sale: Steel Guitars Posted: 27 Feb 2024 7:22 am Subject: 2017 Beard E Odyssey 7-string
Noah Miller Replies: 4 Views: 1444	It's currently set up in A6, with A on the bottom and E on top.
Topic: 2017 Beard E Odyssey 7-string
Noah Miller Replies: 4 Views: 1444	Forum Section: For Sale: Steel Guitars Posted: 23 Feb 2024 3:15 am Subject: 2017 Beard E Odyssey 7-string
Noah Miller Replies: 4 Views: 1444	I custom ordered this from Beard and received it in 2017. As much as I love it, my musical priorities have shifted and it's a shame to see it gathering dust. Time to find it a new home! It's a mode ...
Topic: Epiphone Electar Zephyr - electronics??
Noah Miller Replies: 3 Views: 610	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 18 Feb 2024 1:03 pm Subject: Epiphone Electar Zephyr - electronics??
Noah Miller Replies: 3 Views: 610	According to [url=https://wiedler.ch/nyepireg/database.html#SNhead]the Epiphone serial database, it's a Zephyr 8-string from 1942.
Topic: I "discovered" a 1930's National Resonator....
Noah Miller Replies: 17 Views: 1370	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 15 Feb 2024 9:46 am Subject: I "discovered" a 1930's National Resonator....
Noah Miller Replies: 17 Views: 1370	No, the nut riser doesn't affect tension; people just tend to use heavier strings for steel than Spanish playing.
Topic: I "discovered" a 1930's National Resonator....
Noah Miller Replies: 17 Views: 1370	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 15 Feb 2024 9:31 am Subject: I "discovered" a 1930's National Resonator....
Noah Miller Replies: 17 Views: 1370	You really don't want to go with heavy strings on a biscuit-bridge guitar; there is no spider or T-bar casting protecting it, so the cone may crumple or crease. I would not attempt to play an pre-War ...
Topic: Doesn’t get much cooler than this - Rare Historic Ric
Noah Miller Replies: 13 Views: 1421	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 5 Feb 2024 3:37 pm Subject: Doesn’t get much cooler than this - Rare Historic Ric
Noah Miller Replies: 13 Views: 1421	In one interview, Leon had complained about the necks being on the same level, so maybe that's why they built it that way: That wouldn't have been a Rickenbacker, then; these had the necks at diff ...
Topic: Doesn’t get much cooler than this - Rare Historic Ric
Noah Miller Replies: 13 Views: 1421	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 4 Feb 2024 9:44 am Subject: Doesn’t get much cooler than this - Rare Historic Ric
Noah Miller Replies: 13 Views: 1421	The D-16 is not a particularly rare model (and this is not a DC-16); without the McAuliffe association this would be worth about 1/3 of the asking price.
Topic: 1930s Epiphone Electrophone??
Noah Miller Replies: 5 Views: 619	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 2 Feb 2024 6:09 am Subject: 1930s Epiphone Electrophone??
Noah Miller Replies: 5 Views: 619	It's not an Epiphone, though that does appear to be an inspiration behind it. It incorporates elements of early Vega steels too, though it's not one of theirs either. There was an Australian builde ...
Topic: Scale Length Question
Noah Miller Replies: 6 Views: 749	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 25 Jan 2024 5:39 am Subject: Scale Length Question
Noah Miller Replies: 6 Views: 749	I prefer the sound of a shorter-scale steel, but that's just subjective. I find slanting easier on longer-scale steels because your intonation doesn't have to be as precise.
Topic: Now that's a Long Dickerson
Noah Miller Replies: 28 Views: 3713	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 11 Jan 2024 7:53 am Subject: Now that's a Long Dickerson
Noah Miller Replies: 28 Views: 3713	Model 386K Troubadour. According to the 1941 catalog it has a 26" scale.
Topic: Baldwin Amps and Willie
Noah Miller Replies: 14 Views: 2244	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 27 Dec 2023 12:49 pm Subject: Re: Hey There
Noah Miller Replies: 14 Views: 2244	The Magnatone amps are still available. I saw them listed at Sweetwater Music and they are not at all cheap. The new Magnatone amps have nothing to do with the old ones. Different company, differe ...
Topic: Hank DeVito`s Cordovox sound.
Noah Miller Replies: 10 Views: 2174	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 23 Dec 2023 8:29 am Subject: Hank DeVito`s Cordovox sound.
Noah Miller Replies: 10 Views: 2174	Cordovoxes were single-rotor speakers. That's a different sound from the Leslies commonly used with Hammond organs. You need a pedal that emulates a model 16 or 18 or Fender Vibratone specifically.
Topic: Supro Done! - Help ID This Lap Steel - Supro?
Noah Miller Replies: 23 Views: 2447	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 21 Dec 2023 6:30 pm Subject: Supro Done! - Help ID This Lap Steel - Supro?
Noah Miller Replies: 23 Views: 2447	I can't find an exact match for it. It's certainly a late National-Dobro or early Valco creation; the first-generation string-through pickup dates it to 1940-2. It seems to combine features from sever ...
Topic: Some Country Funk, "Pick Up The Pieces"
Noah Miller Replies: 11 Views: 1164	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 20 Dec 2023 3:22 pm Subject: Some Country Funk, "Pick Up The Pieces"
Noah Miller Replies: 11 Views: 1164	Someone needs to medley this with Poco's "Pickin' Up the Pieces".
Topic: Old Oahu Tonemaster
Noah Miller Replies: 4 Views: 1134	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 16 Dec 2023 3:34 am Subject: Old Oahu Tonemaster
Noah Miller Replies: 4 Views: 1134	This is the first post-War version, built by Kay. Unfortunately their serials are not precisely datable, but they were catalogued by 1948 and replaced by the Valco-built version by 1953.
Topic: Old Oahu Tonemaster
Noah Miller Replies: 4 Views: 1134	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 14 Dec 2023 7:00 am Subject: Old Oahu Tonemaster
Noah Miller Replies: 4 Views: 1134	Yeah, pics aren't working. The image uploading system on this forum is a little odd. If you can't get it to work, you can upload them to an image-hosting site like [url=https://imgur.com/upload]Img ...
Topic: Fix slipping tuner on Ric DW 16
Noah Miller Replies: 1 Views: 798	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 29 Nov 2023 5:48 pm Subject: Fix slipping tuner on Ric DW 16
Noah Miller Replies: 1 Views: 798	A slipping tuner is generally a sign that the gears are worn. There's no way to put that material back once it wears away. You can try swapping parts from another tuner but that's not easy on Klusons. ...
Topic: Trapezoid vs Boxcars?
Noah Miller Replies: 6 Views: 1696	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 26 Nov 2023 10:14 am Subject: Trapezoid vs Boxcars?
Noah Miller Replies: 6 Views: 1696	The trapezoids were designed to give better bass response than the boxcars... and it worked! Similar highs, but beefier lows on the traps.
Topic: Asking for Gibson lap steel info.
Noah Miller Replies: 5 Views: 1553	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 24 Nov 2023 12:20 pm Subject: Asking for Gibson lap steel info.
Noah Miller Replies: 5 Views: 1553	The Firebird pickup is very different from a conventional mini-humubcker despite having the same footprint. While the mini-humbucker is just a shrinken humbucker with one slug coil and one screw coil, ...
Topic: 1939 National Sonora electric guitar
Noah Miller Replies: 5 Views: 2495	Forum Section: For Sale: Other Instruments Posted: 18 Nov 2023 4:24 am Subject: 1939 National Sonora electric guitar
Noah Miller Replies: 5 Views: 2495	Minnie never played the big humbucking pickup. She played a New Yorker with the blade pickup in the bridge, and later an Aristocrat with a smaller pickup at the neck and a "Bridge-Tone" unit ...