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I have always adjusted the sound of my amplifiers by ear. Now that I deal with hearing loss, I find that to be an unreliable source and tone-shaping at low volume in my home studio is nearly useless f ...

I agree with you 100%, John Larson.
We’re steel players. We could give 100 examples where the pedal steel makes the song 😎

Teach doesn’t fill the same bill that Sleepwalk does because it would still be a great song without the pedal steel. But it’s at the top of my list because everyone knows what song it is the insta ...

Sleepwalk is to the non pedal steel as ________ is to the pedal steel.
Oh man…I think I’ll go jump off a bridge.
But all seriousness aside, there is nothing that can fill in that blank. And the ...

Before you pack it in, check out this thread on the topic of great steel playing on classic country
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=337142

I knew this came up not too long ago.

A former bandmate of mine is married to Lou Gottlieb's daughter. I met Lou at their wedding. He had a larger than life presence, as did his Limeliter bandmates, according to him. RIP, Alex.

Indeed, Patrick. Mine looks like it has been through the 20 year war that it fought for me, though, and there seems to be a lot of concern for cosmetic appeal in the resale market. There is an authori ...

I agree with Patrick. I just plugged into my trusty old Mark IIc+ yesterday and reminded myself what great little amp it is. For clean steel, you can get two very distinctive tones by switching from � ...

I can't imagine being able to play a narrowly spaced 10-string bridge with finger picks.
Unless you have indestructible fingernails, I think fingerpicks provide an advantage over bare fingers for d ...

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I suppose in order for a steel guitar part to be considered “iconic”, the song that it’s in would also have to be easily recognized as a classic. That puts a lid on a lot of great and more intri ...

No beef. It’s a pretty boring day on the forum and I just wanted to be viewer number 1,347,190 of this thread.

Well dang. Thought we were on to something. Okay, thanks Jerry & Lee.

I have owned two other pedal steels, and they both suffer the affliction, but the dreaded zing has not presented yet on my ...

Jerry you mention that the zing has been an issue on every keyed-head guitar you’ve played. Does keyless take care of it? That would seem to negate most of the commentary here.

Keep in mind that your band mates might not be so hot right out of the chute either. That can have an effect on how confident you feel with your place in the groove. Not trying to toot my horn and pas ...

I also agree with the Clyde Mattox summation. I saw the late 70’s Family Band a few times. They had incredible chemistry and dynamics, driving right into what seemed like total train wrecks and comi ...

I recall seeing a gag vid of Ricky Skaggs and his band doing the intro to "Highway 40 Blues" with (I think) the steel player a half-tone off. I couldn't find it on YouTube but if someone her ...

Tension in the hands comes from two things - bad technique and bad ergonomics. Your hand does look a bit outsized for that bar. Some players might disagree, but I think the thumb belongs on the butt e ...

The equilateral triangle is where Coltrane’s “Giant Steps” came from. He certainly had a thing for musical geometry.

https://www.openculture.com/2017/04/the-tone-circle-john-coltrane-drew-to- ...

More on the player’s proximity to the amp, which was mentioned earlier—
I don’t give a hoot about the effect of a guitar’s resonance on what the player hears from the amp’s speaker…it’ ...

A wonderfully entertaining and informative presentation, as are all of Mr. Lill’s efforts.

Regarding the “room makes a difference” concept. Yeah, it does. Especially when you compare it with ...

Correct me if I am wrong.
When tuning with A&B pedals down you are really tuning open strings to A 440 for a starting pitch on the 6th string.
Tuning Es with pedals up or open you would be tuni ...

Okay Jack, thanks for responding.

Is this speaker still available, Jack?

If you don’t have Bluetooth, or if you have a Mk1, you can adjust the gain/volume/tone knobs on the panel while using any saved patch. Just like working with any other normal amp. You can adjust eff ...

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Topic: How do you EQ?
Fred Treece Replies: 1 Views: 118	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 10 May 2024 9:39 am Subject: How do you EQ?
Fred Treece Replies: 1 Views: 118	I have always adjusted the sound of my amplifiers by ear. Now that I deal with hearing loss, I find that to be an unreliable source and tone-shaping at low volume in my home studio is nearly useless f ...
Topic: Iconic pedal steel
Fred Treece Replies: 33 Views: 1616	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 9 May 2024 10:54 am Subject: Iconic pedal steel
Fred Treece Replies: 33 Views: 1616	I agree with you 100%, John Larson. We’re steel players. We could give 100 examples where the pedal steel makes the song 😎
Topic: Iconic pedal steel
Fred Treece Replies: 33 Views: 1616	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 9 May 2024 9:01 am Subject: Iconic pedal steel
Fred Treece Replies: 33 Views: 1616	Teach doesn’t fill the same bill that Sleepwalk does because it would still be a great song without the pedal steel. But it’s at the top of my list because everyone knows what song it is the insta ...
Topic: Iconic pedal steel
Fred Treece Replies: 33 Views: 1616	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 9 May 2024 8:16 am Subject: Iconic pedal steel
Fred Treece Replies: 33 Views: 1616	Sleepwalk is to the non pedal steel as ________ is to the pedal steel. Oh man…I think I’ll go jump off a bridge. But all seriousness aside, there is nothing that can fill in that blank. And the ...
Topic: Iconic pedal steel
Fred Treece Replies: 33 Views: 1616	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 8 May 2024 10:26 pm Subject: Iconic pedal steel
Fred Treece Replies: 33 Views: 1616	Before you pack it in, check out this thread on the topic of great steel playing on classic country https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=337142 I knew this came up not too long ago.
Topic: Alex Hassilev
Fred Treece Replies: 4 Views: 610	Forum Section: Gone Home Posted: 8 May 2024 11:24 am Subject: Alex Hassilev
Fred Treece Replies: 4 Views: 610	A former bandmate of mine is married to Lou Gottlieb's daughter. I met Lou at their wedding. He had a larger than life presence, as did his Limeliter bandmates, according to him. RIP, Alex.
Topic: Mesa Boogie California Tweed for Pedal Steel
Fred Treece Replies: 16 Views: 950	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 8 May 2024 10:11 am Subject: Mesa Boogie California Tweed for Pedal Steel
Fred Treece Replies: 16 Views: 950	Indeed, Patrick. Mine looks like it has been through the 20 year war that it fought for me, though, and there seems to be a lot of concern for cosmetic appeal in the resale market. There is an authori ...
Topic: Mesa Boogie California Tweed for Pedal Steel
Fred Treece Replies: 16 Views: 950	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 8 May 2024 9:32 am Subject: Mesa Boogie California Tweed for Pedal Steel
Fred Treece Replies: 16 Views: 950	I agree with Patrick. I just plugged into my trusty old Mark IIc+ yesterday and reminded myself what great little amp it is. For clean steel, you can get two very distinctive tones by switching from � ...
Topic: I just found out there are 6-string pedal steels
Fred Treece Replies: 36 Views: 1588	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 8 May 2024 9:02 am Subject: I just found out there are 6-string pedal steels
Fred Treece Replies: 36 Views: 1588	I can't imagine being able to play a narrowly spaced 10-string bridge with finger picks. Unless you have indestructible fingernails, I think fingerpicks provide an advantage over bare fingers for d ...
Topic: Modeling Rigs
Fred Treece Replies: 22 Views: 2043	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 7 May 2024 7:44 pm Subject: Modeling Rigs
Fred Treece Replies: 22 Views: 2043	https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix2203/15773_IMG_1411_1.jpg
Topic: Iconic pedal steel
Fred Treece Replies: 33 Views: 1616	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 6 May 2024 7:29 am Subject: Iconic pedal steel
Fred Treece Replies: 33 Views: 1616	I suppose in order for a steel guitar part to be considered “iconic”, the song that it’s in would also have to be easily recognized as a classic. That puts a lid on a lot of great and more intri ...
Topic: What's the beef with banjo players?
Fred Treece Replies: 234 Views: 1347678	Forum Section: Steel Players Posted: 5 May 2024 9:30 am Subject: What's the beef with banjo players?
Fred Treece Replies: 234 Views: 1347678	No beef. It’s a pretty boring day on the forum and I just wanted to be viewer number 1,347,190 of this thread.
Topic: 4th String Zing
Fred Treece Replies: 60 Views: 25257	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 3 May 2024 12:56 pm Subject: 4th String Zing
Fred Treece Replies: 60 Views: 25257	Well dang. Thought we were on to something. Okay, thanks Jerry & Lee. I have owned two other pedal steels, and they both suffer the affliction, but the dreaded zing has not presented yet on my ...
Topic: 4th String Zing
Fred Treece Replies: 60 Views: 25257	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 3 May 2024 8:43 am Subject: 4th String Zing
Fred Treece Replies: 60 Views: 25257	Jerry you mention that the zing has been an issue on every keyed-head guitar you’ve played. Does keyless take care of it? That would seem to negate most of the commentary here.
Topic: Warm up time
Fred Treece Replies: 3 Views: 627	Forum Section: Steel Players Posted: 2 May 2024 2:58 pm Subject: Warm up time
Fred Treece Replies: 3 Views: 627	Keep in mind that your band mates might not be so hot right out of the chute either. That can have an effect on how confident you feel with your place in the groove. Not trying to toot my horn and pas ...
Topic: Willie Nelson - Why no Steel Player in band?
Fred Treece Replies: 36 Views: 2885	Forum Section: Steel Players Posted: 2 May 2024 9:10 am Subject: Willie Nelson - Why no Steel Player in band?
Fred Treece Replies: 36 Views: 2885	I also agree with the Clyde Mattox summation. I saw the late 70’s Family Band a few times. They had incredible chemistry and dynamics, driving right into what seemed like total train wrecks and comi ...
Topic: 'Fretboarding' - an apocryphal story?
Fred Treece Replies: 13 Views: 987	Forum Section: Steel Players Posted: 1 May 2024 8:13 am Subject: 'Fretboarding' - an apocryphal story?
Fred Treece Replies: 13 Views: 987	I recall seeing a gag vid of Ricky Skaggs and his band doing the intro to "Highway 40 Blues" with (I think) the steel player a half-tone off. I couldn't find it on YouTube but if someone her ...
Topic: “Correct” Bar Size
Fred Treece Replies: 29 Views: 1533	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 1 May 2024 7:31 am Subject: “Correct” Bar Size
Fred Treece Replies: 29 Views: 1533	Tension in the hands comes from two things - bad technique and bad ergonomics. Your hand does look a bit outsized for that bar. Some players might disagree, but I think the thumb belongs on the butt e ...
Topic: Rotating polygons on the circle of fifths
Fred Treece Replies: 3 Views: 315	Forum Section: Music Posted: 30 Apr 2024 12:30 pm Subject: Rotating polygons on the circle of fifths
Fred Treece Replies: 3 Views: 315	The equilateral triangle is where Coltrane’s “Giant Steps” came from. He certainly had a thing for musical geometry. https://www.openculture.com/2017/04/the-tone-circle-john-coltrane-drew-to- ...
Topic: Video: "The One Thing Every Influential Guitar Tone...
Fred Treece Replies: 10 Views: 830	Forum Section: Music Posted: 28 Apr 2024 5:39 pm Subject: Video: "The One Thing Every Influential Guitar Tone...
Fred Treece Replies: 10 Views: 830	More on the player’s proximity to the amp, which was mentioned earlier— I don’t give a hoot about the effect of a guitar’s resonance on what the player hears from the amp’s speaker…it’ ...
Topic: Video: "The One Thing Every Influential Guitar Tone...
Fred Treece Replies: 10 Views: 830	Forum Section: Music Posted: 27 Apr 2024 10:41 pm Subject: Video: "The One Thing Every Influential Guitar Tone...
Fred Treece Replies: 10 Views: 830	A wonderfully entertaining and informative presentation, as are all of Mr. Lill’s efforts. Regarding the “room makes a difference” concept. Yeah, it does. Especially when you compare it with ...
Topic: cabinet drop
Fred Treece Replies: 60 Views: 5123	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 25 Apr 2024 8:43 am Subject: cabinet drop
Fred Treece Replies: 60 Views: 5123	Correct me if I am wrong. When tuning with A&B pedals down you are really tuning open strings to A 440 for a starting pitch on the 6th string. Tuning Es with pedals up or open you would be tuni ...
Topic: Travis Toy TT-12 Neo Speaker by Eminence- SOLD
Fred Treece Replies: 4 Views: 638	Forum Section: For Sale: Amps and Accessories Posted: 23 Apr 2024 12:35 pm Subject: Travis Toy TT-12 Neo Speaker by Eminence- SOLD
Fred Treece Replies: 4 Views: 638	Okay Jack, thanks for responding.
Topic: Travis Toy TT-12 Neo Speaker by Eminence- SOLD
Fred Treece Replies: 4 Views: 638	Forum Section: For Sale: Amps and Accessories Posted: 23 Apr 2024 8:39 am Subject: Travis Toy TT-12 Neo Speaker by Eminence- SOLD
Fred Treece Replies: 4 Views: 638	Is this speaker still available, Jack?
Topic: Boss Katana 50 mkII: Day two
Fred Treece Replies: 5 Views: 806	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 23 Apr 2024 7:36 am Subject: Boss Katana 50 mkII: Day two
Fred Treece Replies: 5 Views: 806	If you don’t have Bluetooth, or if you have a Mk1, you can adjust the gain/volume/tone knobs on the panel while using any saved patch. Just like working with any other normal amp. You can adjust eff ...