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It’s great that you have a lap steel. If you can set it up as a console, you can practice your ergonomics - posture, hand and leg positioning, etc., a get familiar with keeping your right foot on a ...

After learning the cabinet drop of my own instrument, I only ever really need to tune the open strings, unless I alter a change, or change string gauges. I usually check pedals and levers after a stri ...

I was 13 and had just started playing guitar when a friend of mine came up to me in drawing class and said Duane Allman had died. I really didn’t know who my friend was talking about, but he said it ...

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A mistake of sorts in post, reverb would be the last effect in the chain. A delay after it would repeat the reverb, and that could get a bit muddy..

I think I will try reverb, delay and phase shifter ahead of the volume pedal; overdrive and wah after the volume pedal.
I won’t say don’t do this, but only because doing it won’t damage anythi ...

Just tune up and play, right.

I think people knew what cabinet drop was the very first moment they heard their E string go flat when they stepped on the the AB pedals.

Funny, this forum is full ...

Here's a logical and brilliant suggestion from Larry Bell that would take about 30 seconds to test...

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Larry Bell E9 tuning method

https://bb.ste ...

I was wondering if that’s what the OP meant, Richard. It is a little unclear. After Bill responded, I figured he meant that he built a 6-string acoustic guitar, and knows that strings for a pedal st ...

GHS is a good brand. Check on the forum store by clicking on the “Strings” button at the top of any Steel Guitar Forum page.

Certain strings, like the 6th string in E9 tuning, may require a dec ...

Try parallel 3rds. That works for most of it. Where 3rds sound weak, try perfect 5ths. I would let the melody sit on top and put harmonies beneath, like the video guy in Bill’s post did. There are n ...

Is anyone running a modeler into a stereo keyboard amp for live use? ...
Keyboard amps with stereo i/o and FRFR speakers serve keyboard players very well. It’s not so much about getting the sound o ...

Or we could call psg’s “toe cheese” guitars.

Seriously. How about fretted guitar, or finger guitar? Armpit is just plain stupid, disrespectful, and conceited.

I set my Noble Spanish Standard Six-String Axe aside for about a year when I first started playing pedal steel. I had no regular gig at the time and was already semi-retired from my other life’s wor ...

Just to clarify for the OP-
Doug recommends a wound 6th (.022, I believe) for his Stage One. He says it stabilizes the tuning with the pull-release changer configuration.

That’s killer, Donny. Thanks!

You have to very much want the sound you are talking about (which is not “wolf tone”) when using a fuzz/dist/OD effect. Two or more “imperfect” notes are going to have a dissonant ring, and wh ...

I think I can name one song. They did I Just Wanna Rock n Roll All Night And Party Every Day, right? Some of my friends were into their action figure shtick, and Bowie’s glitter. Bowie’s songs wer ...

I liked the C6/Am7 neck on my D8 Stringmaster. I even had some things on pedal C6 figured out because of the slants and behind the bar pulls I had been goofing around with. Pedal E9 just opened a whol ...

You also have to estimate the time you have to invest in learning how to play.

The thing that turned me off the Uni12 route was all those changes. I counted 49 changes on one of Joe Wright’s gui ...

When you’re 82 and still performing, you do it because you can. I doubt that Wayne Newton needs the money. Small club venues are a cool option for a guy like him. U2 should try it 😎

I’m assu ...

Right, Roger. And also, every 9th chord has a half-diminished and an altered dominant (#5b9) chord lurking within. So the B-Bb change adds to that.

The minor voicing AB+Bb seems superfluous to me ...

I have it on str 10 and 5 with a “0” pedal next to A, so AB+0 is a little impractical.

Split with A is cool though. On C#m voicings (str 10-8-6-5-4-3) you can do the chromatic walk down from t ...

Tim, maybe one other big advantage of using top of the line gear is for pro players who want to take their studio profile device on the road. Or, the reverse. If you create a profile on something like ...

These units all do pretty much the same thing. Just a matter of which learning curve you want to dig into and how much you want to spend.

I have my ME-25 set up with 4 or 5 clean patches and a coup ...

I have an ME-25. There are 10 variations of OD/Dist.

With a Peterson phone app tuner and a couple of adapters, that and a used ME-25 would be about $150.

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Topic: What to do while waiting to buy a steel?
Fred Treece Replies: 8 Views: 406	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 22 Apr 2024 7:00 pm Subject: What to do while waiting to buy a steel?
Fred Treece Replies: 8 Views: 406	It’s great that you have a lap steel. If you can set it up as a console, you can practice your ergonomics - posture, hand and leg positioning, etc., a get familiar with keeping your right foot on a ...
Topic: cabinet drop
Fred Treece Replies: 52 Views: 3664	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 22 Apr 2024 10:09 am Subject: cabinet drop
Fred Treece Replies: 52 Views: 3664	After learning the cabinet drop of my own instrument, I only ever really need to tune the open strings, unless I alter a change, or change string gauges. I usually check pedals and levers after a stri ...
Topic: RIP Dickey Betts!
Fred Treece Replies: 26 Views: 1320	Forum Section: Gone Home Posted: 20 Apr 2024 11:17 pm Subject: RIP Dickey Betts!
Fred Treece Replies: 26 Views: 1320	I was 13 and had just started playing guitar when a friend of mine came up to me in drawing class and said Duane Allman had died. I really didn’t know who my friend was talking about, but he said it ...
Topic: Distortion Pedal Help
Fred Treece Replies: 21 Views: 990	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 20 Apr 2024 7:12 pm Subject: Distortion Pedal Help
Fred Treece Replies: 21 Views: 990	Gary A mistake of sorts in post, reverb would be the last effect in the chain. A delay after it would repeat the reverb, and that could get a bit muddy..
Topic: Distortion Pedal Help
Fred Treece Replies: 21 Views: 990	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 18 Apr 2024 10:14 pm Subject: Distortion Pedal Help
Fred Treece Replies: 21 Views: 990	I think I will try reverb, delay and phase shifter ahead of the volume pedal; overdrive and wah after the volume pedal. I won’t say don’t do this, but only because doing it won’t damage anythi ...
Topic: cabinet drop
Fred Treece Replies: 52 Views: 3664	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 16 Apr 2024 9:30 am Subject: cabinet drop
Fred Treece Replies: 52 Views: 3664	Just tune up and play, right. I think people knew what cabinet drop was the very first moment they heard their E string go flat when they stepped on the the AB pedals. Funny, this forum is full ...
Topic: cabinet drop
Fred Treece Replies: 52 Views: 3664	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 16 Apr 2024 9:18 am Subject: cabinet drop
Fred Treece Replies: 52 Views: 3664	Here's a logical and brilliant suggestion from Larry Bell that would take about 30 seconds to test... ************************************************ Larry Bell E9 tuning method https://bb.ste ...
Topic: What strings???
Fred Treece Replies: 8 Views: 598	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 14 Apr 2024 1:04 pm Subject: What strings???
Fred Treece Replies: 8 Views: 598	I was wondering if that’s what the OP meant, Richard. It is a little unclear. After Bill responded, I figured he meant that he built a 6-string acoustic guitar, and knows that strings for a pedal st ...
Topic: What strings???
Fred Treece Replies: 8 Views: 598	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 14 Apr 2024 9:21 am Subject: What strings???
Fred Treece Replies: 8 Views: 598	GHS is a good brand. Check on the forum store by clicking on the “Strings” button at the top of any Steel Guitar Forum page. Certain strings, like the 6th string in E9 tuning, may require a dec ...
Topic: Tabbing out Classical Music
Fred Treece Replies: 5 Views: 353	Forum Section: Tablature Posted: 13 Apr 2024 1:29 pm Subject: Tabbing out Classical Music
Fred Treece Replies: 5 Views: 353	Try parallel 3rds. That works for most of it. Where 3rds sound weak, try perfect 5ths. I would let the melody sit on top and put harmonies beneath, like the video guy in Bill’s post did. There are n ...
Topic: Modeling Rigs
Fred Treece Replies: 19 Views: 1488	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 13 Apr 2024 11:25 am Subject: Modeling Rigs
Fred Treece Replies: 19 Views: 1488	Is anyone running a modeler into a stereo keyboard amp for live use? ... Keyboard amps with stereo i/o and FRFR speakers serve keyboard players very well. It’s not so much about getting the sound o ...
Topic: Steel players who gave up "armpit" guitar for the steel?
Fred Treece Replies: 55 Views: 1977	Forum Section: Steel Players Posted: 10 Apr 2024 1:46 pm Subject: Steel players who gave up "armpit" guitar for the steel?
Fred Treece Replies: 55 Views: 1977	Or we could call psg’s “toe cheese” guitars. Seriously. How about fretted guitar, or finger guitar? Armpit is just plain stupid, disrespectful, and conceited.
Topic: Steel players who gave up "armpit" guitar for the steel?
Fred Treece Replies: 55 Views: 1977	Forum Section: Steel Players Posted: 10 Apr 2024 8:57 am Subject: I don’t know what an armpit guitar is
Fred Treece Replies: 55 Views: 1977	I set my Noble Spanish Standard Six-String Axe aside for about a year when I first started playing pedal steel. I had no regular gig at the time and was already semi-retired from my other life’s wor ...
Topic: Difference in tone between a 26W and a 26P (F#)
Fred Treece Replies: 8 Views: 617	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 9 Apr 2024 5:42 pm Subject: Difference in tone between a 26W and a 26P (F#)
Fred Treece Replies: 8 Views: 617	Just to clarify for the OP- Doug recommends a wound 6th (.022, I believe) for his Stage One. He says it stabilizes the tuning with the pull-release changer configuration.
Topic: Neat trick! (internet tip) using archive.is/
Fred Treece Replies: 1 Views: 355	Forum Section: Computers Posted: 7 Apr 2024 8:03 am Subject: Neat trick! (internet tip) using archive.is/
Fred Treece Replies: 1 Views: 355	That’s killer, Donny. Thanks!
Topic: "Wolf tones" with Overdrive
Fred Treece Replies: 13 Views: 835	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 6 Apr 2024 9:18 am Subject: "Wolf tones" with Overdrive
Fred Treece Replies: 13 Views: 835	You have to very much want the sound you are talking about (which is not “wolf tone”) when using a fuzz/dist/OD effect. Two or more “imperfect” notes are going to have a dissonant ring, and wh ...
Topic: Kiss sells brand and songs for $300 Million
Fred Treece Replies: 18 Views: 962	Forum Section: Music Posted: 5 Apr 2024 9:15 am Subject: Kiss sells brand and songs for $300 Million
Fred Treece Replies: 18 Views: 962	I think I can name one song. They did I Just Wanna Rock n Roll All Night And Party Every Day, right? Some of my friends were into their action figure shtick, and Bowie’s glitter. Bowie’s songs wer ...
Topic: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Fred Treece Replies: 15 Views: 1261	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 4 Apr 2024 5:41 pm Subject: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Fred Treece Replies: 15 Views: 1261	I liked the C6/Am7 neck on my D8 Stringmaster. I even had some things on pedal C6 figured out because of the slants and behind the bar pulls I had been goofing around with. Pedal E9 just opened a whol ...
Topic: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Fred Treece Replies: 15 Views: 1261	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 4 Apr 2024 9:56 am Subject: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Fred Treece Replies: 15 Views: 1261	You also have to estimate the time you have to invest in learning how to play. The thing that turned me off the Uni12 route was all those changes. I counted 49 changes on one of Joe Wright’s gui ...
Topic: Steel sighting
Fred Treece Replies: 4 Views: 656	Forum Section: Music Posted: 4 Apr 2024 8:09 am Subject: Steel sighting
Fred Treece Replies: 4 Views: 656	When you’re 82 and still performing, you do it because you can. I doubt that Wayne Newton needs the money. Small club venues are a cool option for a guy like him. U2 should try it 😎 I’m assu ...
Topic: Most common uses for B->Bb change
Fred Treece Replies: 11 Views: 1063	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 3 Apr 2024 9:32 am Subject: Most common uses for B->Bb change
Fred Treece Replies: 11 Views: 1063	Right, Roger. And also, every 9th chord has a half-diminished and an altered dominant (#5b9) chord lurking within. So the B-Bb change adds to that. The minor voicing AB+Bb seems superfluous to me ...
Topic: Most common uses for B->Bb change
Fred Treece Replies: 11 Views: 1063	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 3 Apr 2024 8:24 am Subject: Most common uses for B->Bb change
Fred Treece Replies: 11 Views: 1063	I have it on str 10 and 5 with a “0” pedal next to A, so AB+0 is a little impractical. Split with A is cool though. On C#m voicings (str 10-8-6-5-4-3) you can do the chromatic walk down from t ...
Topic: Modeling Rigs
Fred Treece Replies: 19 Views: 1488	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 2 Apr 2024 9:45 am Subject: Modeling Rigs
Fred Treece Replies: 19 Views: 1488	Tim, maybe one other big advantage of using top of the line gear is for pro players who want to take their studio profile device on the road. Or, the reverse. If you create a profile on something like ...
Topic: Question on multi-effects units
Fred Treece Replies: 14 Views: 961	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 31 Mar 2024 12:47 pm Subject: Question on multi-effects units
Fred Treece Replies: 14 Views: 961	These units all do pretty much the same thing. Just a matter of which learning curve you want to dig into and how much you want to spend. I have my ME-25 set up with 4 or 5 clean patches and a coup ...
Topic: Question on multi-effects units
Fred Treece Replies: 14 Views: 961	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 30 Mar 2024 9:35 am Subject: Question on multi-effects units
Fred Treece Replies: 14 Views: 961	I have an ME-25. There are 10 variations of OD/Dist. With a Peterson phone app tuner and a couple of adapters, that and a used ME-25 would be about $150.