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  Topic: The Mystery Shim
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 11
Views: 648

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 25 Mar 2024 9:56 am   Subject: The Mystery Shim
Thinking more on the plastic shim.

1.The nut would not tighten the tuner, Till it was tight in the key head, (Key head thin for the tuner). If washer was put on inside key head would make the the 5 ...
  Topic: B Pedal G#'s Raising at different times
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 2
Views: 171

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 25 Mar 2024 9:34 am   Subject: B Pedal G#'s Raising at different times
It sounds like the guitar may have been set up for a plain 6th string and now has a 6th wound string. That would explain the 6th string pulling slower than 3rd string.

Changing from wound to plain ...
  Topic: Great way to organize loose leaf lessons and charts
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 4
Views: 412

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 24 Mar 2024 8:55 pm   Subject: Great way to organize loose leaf lessons and charts
I have used 3 hole notebooks and those see through protectors for teaching materials, They work great to keep pages like new. And between each lesson page, Place a see through protector, With a plain ...
  Topic: MSA Identification Help Needed
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 3
Views: 318

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 24 Mar 2024 8:23 pm   Subject: MSA Identification Help Needed
As far as being an MSA Classic.

The MSA Classic had an aluminum back apron with screws to hold the outer cover in place, Removing the cover gave access to cross shaft for removal and replacement.
...
  Topic: Book on setup?
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 3
Views: 402

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 24 Mar 2024 7:37 pm   Subject: Book on setup?
Mickey Adams has a video on setting up lowers and raises and timing pulls on steel guitar, That has a lot of information.
  Topic: My 'new' 12 string Zum
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 16
Views: 927

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 24 Mar 2024 7:18 pm   Subject: My 'new' 12 string Zum
Having raise on B pedal to G# on 11th, Raise on 12th string E to F on knee lever, And with raise 10th string B to C# will give you another lower octave combination, That can open a lot of new territor ...
  Topic: The Mystery Shim
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 11
Views: 648

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 24 Mar 2024 12:44 pm   Subject: The Mystery Shim
Could be a shim to keep the shafts ends from dragging on each other, They may have been afraid of the drag causing tuning problems. With the design of some key heads I have had to grind the key shaft ...
  Topic: Confused about Leverage/Rodding/Bell Cranks?
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 23
Views: 986

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 19 Mar 2024 9:25 pm   Subject: Confused about Leverage/Rodding/Bell Cranks?
There are rules of physics working in a steel a guitar, We have to deal with, And live with.

The smaller the string, The farther the string has to travel to reach same note, Than a larger string, O ...
  Topic: Pedal Steel String Gadget
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 4
Views: 514

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 19 Mar 2024 7:26 pm   Subject: Pedal Steel String Gadget
That was another 1 of the gadgets Buddy Emmons came up with, An E Bow.
If you watch Mr. Emmons on U tube play Manchin on the Hill, Or Once Upon a Time in the West in a band situation, He uses an E B ...
  Topic: U12: IS there a standard?
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 29
Views: 1043

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 19 Mar 2024 11:45 am   Subject: U12: IS there a standard?
To muddy the water more.

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix2203/9824_SCAN0016_1.jpg
When I got a deal on a S12 I could not pass, I gathered 8 different 12 string Ext. E9th, Universal Tunings. ...
  Topic: Tuning stability issue across the board
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 17
Views: 958

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 18 Mar 2024 11:10 pm   Subject: Tuning stability issue across the board
What type of body does the guitar have?
If the guitar body is curly maple, Moisture change from Flagler CO to Greensboro SC may be the problem. As moisture content in wood goes up, Some high figured ...
  Topic: Tuning stability issue across the board
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 17
Views: 958

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 17 Mar 2024 8:57 pm   Subject: Tuning stability issue across the board
End plate to body screws, Changer and key head to body screws, Could be the problem. As Mr. Shafer already suggested. And Mr. Hinson's suggestion of enough wraps on shaft for good grip on shaft.

Th ...
  Topic: Weird sound from my PSG.
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 36
Views: 1509

PostForum Section: Electronics   Posted: 16 Mar 2024 9:55 pm   Subject: Weird sound from my PSG.
Check outlet voltage, Lower than 110V or more than 120V can cause problems. With some electronic equipment.
  Topic: Tuning Pedals / Knee Levers
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 8
Views: 634

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 16 Mar 2024 9:19 pm   Subject: Tuning Pedals / Knee Levers
As long as the rods do not stick out past the End Plate would not hurt.
Caution, If the rods stick out past the end plate, When placing the guitar in its case. The rods can be bent and cause problem ...
  Topic: Seeking recommendations for pedal pulls for C6 licks on E9
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 13
Views: 832

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 16 Mar 2024 8:50 pm   Subject: Seeking recommendations for pedal pulls for C6 licks on E9
On Jeff Newman's 12 Universal Tuning, He lowers the 2nd string to C# on the lever that lowers Strings 4-8 for his B6th voicing.
  Topic: Zumsteel U-12 **Sold****
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 7
Views: 1385

PostForum Section: For Sale: Steel Guitars   Posted: 14 Mar 2024 5:07 pm   Subject: Zumsteel U-12 **Sold****
How wide is the pad on the guitar?
Is it set up Universal or Extended E9th?
  Topic: Another Carter
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 6
Views: 614

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 13 Mar 2024 9:13 pm   Subject: Another Carter
If the Vertical Lever and RKL are tunable in their present setup. Make drawings of Changer Holes and Bell Crank Holes, Take pictures too. It should be easy to reverse them to match what you are used t ...
  Topic: Resurrected Shobud
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 14
Views: 976

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 13 Mar 2024 6:27 pm   Subject: Resurrected Shobud
Great job of bringing the guitar back from the edge.
Beautiful wood in the body, And great finish.

Good Luck with getting the mechanical parts setup, Happy Steelin.
  Topic: Tuning Pedals / Knee Levers
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 8
Views: 634

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 13 Mar 2024 4:33 pm   Subject: Tuning Pedals / Knee Levers
Some pictures of the underneath of the guitar would help as Mr. Light suggested.

Since the problem pull rod/tuning nut is String 4 Lower, E to D# on a knee lever.

Remember, When lowering a st ...
  Topic: Justice Nylon Nut Size?
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 4
Views: 365

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 12 Mar 2024 9:07 pm   Subject: Justice Nylon Nut Size?
There is 3 measurements you need to properly fit a tuning nut.
If a standard tuning nut, 3/16" hex is a given.
1. Length of tuning nut.
2. Depth of hole
3. Diameter of rod.

A good accurate ...
  Topic: Tuning Pedals / Knee Levers
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 8
Views: 634

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 12 Mar 2024 8:47 pm   Subject: Tuning Pedals / Knee Levers
While you are under the guitar, I suggest you lengthen some of the other pull rods too. So the pull rod is even with the outside end of the tuning nut, Those short MSA tuning nuts needs the support ...
  Topic: Tuning Keys
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 3
Views: 461

PostForum Section: Builders' Corner   Posted: 8 Mar 2024 10:14 pm   Subject: Tuning Keys
Most cheaper priced keys have a low mechanical ratio. Like a 1X8, or 1X10 ratio. Higher priced keys usually have a higher ratio like 1X14 and some 1X18. The higher ratio of gearing is better for quick ...
  Topic: Info on JF Pick Imperfection?
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 11
Views: 1550

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 8 Mar 2024 9:10 pm   Subject: Info on JF Pick Imperfection?
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix2203/9824_DSC00808_1.jpg
The 2 picks on the left are JF picks, A friend gave me. I never liked the diamonds, Not much metal at edge of the diamonds allow them t ...
  Topic: What is this?
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 3
Views: 1022

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 7 Mar 2024 8:19 pm   Subject: What is this?
The pictures from the for sale add is not complete.
Some close up pictures of the changer, And the underside of the guitar. Would allow more knowledge of the mechanics of the guitar. Having 4 Knee L ...
  Topic: Carter finger polishing question
Bobby D. Jones

Replies: 13
Views: 771

PostForum Section: Pedal Steel   Posted: 6 Mar 2024 7:52 pm   Subject: Carter finger polishing question
If you have long Key Heads and you have real sharp ears, Some people can hear the dead string in the key head.

At one time when you seen a picture of Mr. Lloyd Green's steel, He had foam stuck bet ...
 
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